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LoL, PC gamers get so fucked - BFBC2
« on: January 16, 2010, 05:50:14 PM »
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In a message to Dice's Rendering Architect - Frostbite Engine Repi , via twitter, @pekhe asked the following in regards to Bad Company 2:

    @repi Do you still know if the PC version will have a developer console tab? Any news on the FOV?

His short and sweet answer:

    @pekhe No console

A thread was then started on the official EA forums over in the UK, where Repi offered more information regarding the no console comment.

    Quote from one of the EA forum members:
    But it's still no excuse for removing the dev console, record and so on. Sure, serverfiles are one thing, they don't want them get hacked but it's a bit... "meh" reason. Don't give the hackers a reason to hack it then!

    Repi's reply:
    We have not removed a console from BC2. The simple reason is that BC1 and BC2 never have had an in-game console. Which also means that the game won't be possible to hack in this regard.

So after all the Modern Warfare 2 calling out by Dice, I guess this is another watered down console version ported to the PC.

Does anyone get why BF2 has been so popular for so long? Hint, it's not because there's no access to the console, or because of the modding community or because you can't run your own server on your own hardware.

Here we go again..........

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Re: LoL, PC gamers get so fucked - BFBC2
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2010, 06:01:19 PM »
Josh’s State of the PC Community

To my fellow members of the community. In light of recent developments of a PC beta for Battlefield Bad Company 2, some members of the community have become outraged and blinded by the fact there will be no publicly released server files. To you I say “why are you making such a fuss…” you have talked up and praised BFBC2 for coming out and saying there will be dedicated servers, you never asked what type of servers, you only assumed. On November 25th, 2009, Gordon Van Dyke of DICE posted a blog at http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com stating only that “Dedicated Ranked Server - Everyone gets non-stop action with no connection penalties based on some other player's internet. Ranked Server Provider program will give players opportunity to rent their own server(s) located in professional grade datacenters, ability to modify settings like map rotation, create reserved slots for friends or clan members, kick & Ban players, and custom name your ranked server. Clan Support & Private Servers - Independent Clan Tag, and ability to rent servers for hosting and controlling private password protected competitive servers with expanded control over the settings from public ranked servers.” To read that, it says clearly “RANKED SERVER PROVIDER” and “ability to RENT SERVERS for hosting and controlling;” nowhere did it state that we would be able to upload the dedicated server files to our own dedicated boxes.

To which I now ask, did any of you ever read that when it was posted? That blog was posted a month and a half before we hear more from DICE about the PC beta. When the officially said their deal on dedicated servers via their blog http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com on January 7th 2010, they said “Public Server Files: We will not distribute these publicly. There are many factors for why we have decided this with the biggest factor being security & integrity of our game & Dedicated Servers.” Now, we haven’t had any confirmation from DICE whether or not this applies to the full game or just the BETA, but it seems reasonable to assume that during the beta, they want to make sure they fully grasp how servers handle the game and engine. Big deal, it’s their game, they can do with it as they please… like I said before at least we are getting dedicated servers in some form or another.

What I see the most though, is that the people that are upset and complaining that they have turned their back on the community, are those people from the Call of Duty community that got shafted by Infinity Ward when Modern Warfare 2 came out. They have to remember it has been 5 years since the Battlefield 2 came out on the PC (I’m leaving out 2142 for a reason), and that game still has so much traffic on it. The mod tools came out a year or two after the release of BF2 (which is another thing people are mad about… give me a paragraph and I’ll get to it…) and it has held strong since, 5 years. The life span of a Call of Duty game is between 1 and 2 years, because it depends on which developer you like more, TreyArch or Infinity Ward.

On the subject of mod tools, it took a few months after BF2 was released for the mod tools to come out, and then finally updated another 5 months after the tools were released. For those of you up in arms about no mod tools (for now at least), you’re mad because you’re the same people that got done by MW2 and you feel that every game to be released after should have full dedicated servers, ones you upload yourself, and mod tools. Please, look at this from the developer point of view, it’s their new engine, they want to make sure they get everything right with it before they release anything that will enable us to modify the game that has to run off this new engine. So please, take a second to step back and look at the reasoning behind their decscion for it, eventhough they have not come out themselves and said that this was the reason, you could probably bet that that’s the real reason, not that they don’t want you to modify it; if that was the case then DICE would never have hired those that worked on the Desert Combat mod for BF1942 to help them make BF2.

So to all of you still angry with DICE for not giving us the server files to install ourselves and the mod tools so we can make our own mods, think, are you mad because they have betrayed you, or is it because you thought when they said in October, after the BASHandSlash show with Robert Bowling, that they were going to have dedicated servers that they meant install it yourself and mod it all you want? We assume too much and when we assume these things we get mad, so please, for the community stop assuming and just be thankful there are dedicated servers and that they are focused on helping the PC community have a good game, regardless of no mods.

This has been your PC State of the Community for January.
Josh “The Voice” Peckler


I really don't see how everyone can assume things about this game. IT IS NOT FOR THE COD COMMUNITY, its a game for the BF COMMUNITY and those who want to try it. Its our own fault we put it on a pedestal... but we have to remember... its a BF game, and its a sequel to a CONSOLE ONLY BF game...

There will be admin "tools", as there has been in the past.

When we assume, we make an a$$ out of ourselves, and us as a CoD community have to realize that BF/MOH is not CoD!

PS: It takes a load of money to create MOD tools, and when they don't want us to mod the engine (since it is new) then so be it, it takes money away from them working on BF3 which should be the PC king.

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Re: LoL, PC gamers get so fucked - BFBC2
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2010, 08:33:46 PM »
So no mod tools, but still dedicated servers right?


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Re: LoL, PC gamers get so fucked - BFBC2
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 01:55:57 AM »
As long as we get the dedicated servers...MW2 would be great if we could all play the game in one centralized location and not have to form bullshit parties etc.

Not a big deal if we don't get console right away.

This isn't anything near the bullshit with IWNET, the guys at IW released hyped up trailers for weeks beforehand to get us interested because they knew the second they told us there were no dedicated servers people would be pissed off.
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Re: LoL, PC gamers get so fucked - BFBC2
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 02:57:49 PM »
I'll still buy it, but I'm guessing BF3 will have all the dev tools and public dedis we need.

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Re: LoL, PC gamers get so fucked - BFBC2
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 06:57:46 PM »
I think they will still have a console just not an in game one. If you remember BF2 there were very few things that you could do with the in game console regardless and it sounds like they are restricting it a little more.

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Re: LoL, PC gamers get so fucked - BFBC2
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 02:52:41 AM »
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Re: LoL, PC gamers get so fucked - BFBC2
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2010, 04:05:12 PM »
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